Real crossover’s a lot harder than people thought. A lot of artists thought it would be much easier to make TV shows or records or movies, and they found out it’s a much more disgusting environment than the art world, and that it’s much more difficult. But the idea of getting out of the art world to make better art because you reach people outside the class structures implied by the museum system is a dream that’s been embedded in many artists of my generation. Maybe they’ve chipped so much of the structure away that there’s no real definition left, and everything is possible…
— Tony Oursler